Legislature(1993 - 1994)

04/17/1993 09:40 AM Senate FIN

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  CS FOR SENATE BILL NO. 76(JUD):                                              
                                                                               
       An Act  requiring  regulations  relating  to  pull-tabs                 
       adopted by  the  Department of  Commerce  and  Economic                 
       Development to  be consistent  with the  North American                 
       Gaming Regulators Association  standards on  pull-tabs;                 
       allowing permittees  to contract  with vendors  to sell                 
       pull-tabs on behalf  of the permittee;  restricting the                 
       purchase of pull-tabs by certain persons; requiring the                 
       sale of pull-tabs by vendors to be solely by a pull-tab                 
       ticket  dispensing  machine; requiring  receipts before                 
       certain prizes  may be  paid; prohibiting  distributors                 
       from  supplying  pull-tabs   to  vendors;  relating  to                 
       registration  of  vendors; requiring  the  licensing of                 
       out-of-state   manufacturers;   allowing    public   or                 
       nonprofit  broadcasting stations  to sell  pull-tabs at                 
       more than one location; preventing persons with certain                 
       convictions from  being involved  in charitable  gaming                 
       activities  as a  permittee,  licensee, vendor,  person                 
       responsible for an activity, fund raiser or  consultant                 
       of  a  licensee,   or  employee  in  a   managerial  or                 
       supervisory  capacity  and  providing   exceptions  for                 
       certain persons whose convictions are at least 10 years                 
       old; relating to multiple-beneficiary charitable gaming                 
       permits   and  door   prizes  for   charitable  gaming;                 
       requiring   Department   of   Commerce   and   Economic                 
       Development  approval  of contracts  between charitable                 
       gaming  permittees  and  operators  before  gaming  may                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
       occur; limiting the amount of  authorized expenses to a                 
       percentage  of adjusted gross  income for  a charitable                 
       gaming activity; relating to  the reporting and payment                 
       of  a  percentage  of  the  adjusted  gross  income  by                 
       operators  to  permittees;   requiring  Department   of                 
       Commerce and Economic Development approval of contracts                 
       between   permittees   and   operators;  allowing   the                 
       commissioner of  commerce and  economic development  to                 
       issue  orders prohibiting  violations  of state  gaming                 
       laws; relating to the authority  of the commissioner of                 
       commerce and economic development to suspend or  revoke                 
       a  permit, license,  or registration;  relating to  the                 
       uses to which  charitable gaming  proceeds may be  put;                 
       relating   to   `political    uses'   and    `political                 
       organizations'  as   those  terms   are  used  in   the                 
       charitable  gaming  statutes;  and   providing  for  an                 
       effective date.                                                         
                                                                               
  Senator  Sharp  MOVED  to  RESCIND  prior  committee  action                 
  adopting CSSB 76(FIN)  work draft "M"  and amendment 1.   No                 
  objections being heard, prior action was RESCINDED.                          
                                                                               
  Senator Sharp  MOVED for ADOPTION of CSSB 76(FIN) work draft                 
  "S" dated April 16, 1993.  No objections being heard, it was                 
  ADOPTED.    Co-chair  Pearce outlined  the  changes  in CSSB
  76(FIN) work  draft "S".   She said  that felony  exclusions                 
  remained in the bill, net proceeds  from pull tabs and bingo                 
  (not  raffle  proceeds) are  prohibited for  direct campaign                 
  contributions  to  candidates  as  in  the prior  bill,  net                 
  proceeds  are  also  prohibited  for  payment to  registered                 
  lobbyists, third  party vendor language has  been tightened,                 
  multiple beneficiary  permits allowed, the  APRN section has                 
  been removed, and  language was removed allowing  the use of                 
  vendor machines for pull  tabs.  She said that  an amendment                 
  had been prepared to allow package stores to  participate in                 
  the sale of pull tabs.  She invited John Hansen, Jr., Gaming                 
  Manager,  Department of Commerce  & Economic  Development to                 
  rejoin the members at the table.                                             
                                                                               
  Senator Sharp MOVED for ADOPTION of  amendment 1 on page 15,                 
  line 16 of  CSSB 76(FIN) work  draft "S".   Mr. Hansen  said                 
  that amendment 1  was a technical amendment  that would give                 
  an exception to the Department of  Labor that would allow 16                 
  to 19 year  olds to work in restaurants where  pull tabs are                 
  sold.  The  way the bill  is drafted, it basically  excludes                 
  those establishments from  being able to  sell pull tabs  as                 
  vendors.    No  objections  being  heard,  amendment  1  was                 
  ADOPTED.                                                                     
                                                                               
  Senator Sharp MOVED for ADOPTION of  amendment 2 on page 15,                 
  line 11, with  consideration of the title.   Co-chair Pearce                 
  explained that amendment 2 would  add package store licenses                 
  back into the  third party  vendor.  In  answer to  Co-chair                 
  Pearce,  Mr. Hansen  said that  package  stores were  at the                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  present time  selling pull  tabs in  Alaska.  No  objections                 
  being heard, amendment 2 was ADOPTED.                                        
                                                                               
  Mr.  Hansen  said that  currently  in Alaska  pull  tabs are                 
  authorized and allowed  to be  sold in any  location.   This                 
  bill would provide for permittees to go directly to bars and                 
  liquor stores and receive a minimum of 50 percent of the net                 
  proceeds at  the time  they deliver  the pull  tabs.   Under                 
  current,  these  sales  are  occurring  using  operators  or                 
  permittees.   When  they  use an  operator  they  receive  a                 
  minimum  of 15  percent  of net  proceeds,  that minimum  is                 
  usually the maximum.   Discussion was had by Mr.  Hansen and                 
  Senator Kelly regarding net proceeds, expenses and profit.                   
                                                                               
  Co-chair Pearce invited  Paul Fuhs, Commissioner, Department                 
  of  Commerce  &  Economic Development,  to  come  before the                 
  committee again and  speak to SB 76.  Mr. Fuhs said that the                 
  Governor was opposed to gambling but  if the state was going                 
  to authorize  it, he  felt profits  should be  going to  the                 
  charities.  He said that gaming associations were opposed to                 
  the  legislation.  He  explained that  every bar  could have                 
  pull tabs under the existing law, and of the 1,320 permittee                 
  locations in Alaska,  537 are bars.   The advantage of  this                 
  legislation  is  that  the charities  would  get  50 percent                 
  instead of 15 percent  under existing legislation.   He said                 
  that his department  was in support of  prohibiting proceeds                 
  for use for campaign contributions.                                          
                                                                               
  Discussion was had  by Senator Kelly, Mr.  Fuhs and Co-chair                 
  Pearce  regarding the difference  between using  third party                 
  vendors  and  operators.    Mr.   Fuhs  estimated  that  the                 
  combination of stopping the diversion  of gaming proceeds to                 
  campaign contributions and lobbyists and the increase in the                 
  percentages would result  in about $10  million more a  year                 
  going to charities than under existing legislation.  He said                 
  that about $16 million net goes  to charities at the present                 
  time.                                                                        
                                                                               
  Co-chair said that a  new fiscal note for the  Department of                 
  Revenue  shows $86.9  but  because  of  the addition  of  an                 
  auditor  position it could provide $100.0 additional revenue                 
  for the department.                                                          
                                                                               
  Senator Rieger  asks for clarification  regarding permittees                 
  expenses.  Mr.  Hansen said  that under CSSB  76(FIN), if  a                 
  permittee  chooses  to use  an  operator  or  a  vendor,  or                 
  operates the game out of their own bingo hall, they are  not                 
  going  to be  allowed to  use more  than  70 percent  of the                 
  adjusted gross income  for overall expenses which  leaves 30                 
  percent for charities.                                                       
                                                                               
  Senator Kelly MOVED  for ADOPTION  of amendment  3 adding  a                 
  comma and the words "directly or indirectly" after  the word                 
  "portion" on page  9, line 19.   No objections being  heard,                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  amendment 3 was ADOPTED.                                                     
                                                                               
  Senator Kelly MOVED for passage  of CSSB 76(FIN) as  amended                 
  with individual  recommendations.  CSSB  76(FIN) work  draft                 
  "S" was  REPORTED OUT  of committee  as amended  with a  "do                 
  pass" and  with a  zero fiscal  note for  the Department  of                 
  Commerce & Economic  Development and a  new fiscal note  for                 
  the Department of Revenue in the amount of $86.9.  Co-chairs                 
  Pearce and Frank,  Senators Jacko,  Kelly, Sharp and  Rieger                 
  signed "do pass."  Senator Kerttula signed "no rec."                         
                                                                               
  ADJOURNMENT                                                                  
                                                                               
  The meeting was adjourned at approximately 12:40 p.m.                        
                                                                               

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